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ximeria ([personal profile] ximeria) wrote2008-12-29 07:21 pm
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Why...

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do some asshats think it's a good idea to code the colour of the text of their posts on communities? Bloody, friggin' idiots!

I'm sorry, I don't see any redeeming value to something like that? And I love the merlinxarthur community for STATING in their rules of posting that you are not allowed to re-code the text -- only, of course their text settings stink (who the hell sets the italics code to show as light grey text when the background's white?), but apart from that, just the fact that they state it.

Now then, why do people force the font colour or size? I mean, you're not going to be reading your own post, are you? I mean, not as closely as everyone else is. So why, oh why, do you fuck it up by setting your text as light grey/white -- you know, I have grey background on my friendspage as well as my mainpage. It means your post shows up as something REALLY wonky looking.

*smacks people over their heads*

Really, if you don't know what you're fiddling with, keep you sticky bleedin' fingers off the code!

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[personal profile] eliabrith 2008-12-29 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I know the feeling. I quite often end up with people setting their text to black, really doesn't work on mine.
Mind you I have seen worse there was a post on MerlinxArthur this morning linked to the writers journal small mid-grey text on dark grey
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[identity profile] ximeria.livejournal.com 2008-12-30 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh huh -- and people get reaaaaaally defensive if you hint at them that it might be for everyone's benefit if they change their settings...

[identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com 2008-12-29 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I hate that, too. Eisapally when it's bright red text on a black background.

'Now then, why do people force the font colour or size?'
I have a theory that most people who do it, think it makes their story more interesting. No, better writing would make their story more interesting.

I'll admit that I changed my journal to white text on a dark gray background.
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[identity profile] ximeria.livejournal.com 2008-12-29 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
*snorts coffee*

Scary thought, but I think you might be right.

I don't mind the individual LJs, because unless you go in and force each entry with HTML code, it will show up with whatever setting the viewer has their friendspage set to. It will show as light on dark background with you and dark on light background on my flist page.

That's what I want people to do. Change the LJ settings for their own journals so they don't interfer with the rest of our viewing. Fiddling with the text colour in the single entry will only make me beat them about their heads even more.

[identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com 2008-12-29 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
'Scary thought, but I think you might be right.'
It's either that or those poor delusional souls really do think it looks good. Every time I see someone murder HTML the artist in me dies a little.
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[identity profile] ximeria.livejournal.com 2008-12-30 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
To me it's the same, just the inner html-coding-geek croaks.

[identity profile] scriggle.livejournal.com 2008-12-29 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
That is one of my pet peeves. I have my lj set in a font/color that's easy for me to read. When someone hardcodes font/size/color, it makes me not want to read what they post.
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[identity profile] ximeria.livejournal.com 2008-12-30 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
yes, I think there should be a law against coding html if you don't know what you're doing. At least, do it somewhere where you don't hurt the eyes of everyone else XD

And I have to admit, if people can't be arsed to code correctly, then I can't be arsed to read the story.
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[identity profile] webbgirl.livejournal.com 2008-12-29 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh. I was just considering adding that as a rule at [livejournal.com profile] ncisfanfic. It annoys the crap out of me too. My problem right now is that folks either can't figure out how to work the tags or just can't be bothered to read the flippin' rules.
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[identity profile] ximeria.livejournal.com 2008-12-30 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly -- because people still do it over on merlinxarthur -- even if the rules state you're not allowed. Or they get around it by linking to the story on their own journal which always has an eyewatering layout.

Although, if people can't be arsed to check the rules, then there's always the option of deleting their entry until they GET it.

[identity profile] maryavatar.livejournal.com 2008-12-29 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Oooh, yes. I hate that so much. A lot of people just paste their text directly from Word into the RTF interface box, not realising they've just set that text to display as black 12pt Times New Roman. Which doesn't do those of us who have a black background much good.

Another peeve is when, instead of putting spoilers behind a cut-tag, people code so the text is white. Which, of course, only doesn't hide a damn thing on a black f-page.

But my number one coding irritant is people who write code into an img src tag. It doesn't matter if it's coded to display as 100x100 pixels, if the image file itself is 5000x5000 the poor sod reading the page still has to download the whole file. Not fun if you're on dial-up or accessing from a library/café/multi-user network. I've lost count of the number of times my PDA has freaked out on me because someone couldn't be bothered to spend 10 seconds resizing an image properly.

[identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com 2008-12-29 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
'But my number one coding irritant is people who write code into an img src tag.'
Why in the world would you do that!?

[identity profile] maryavatar.livejournal.com 2008-12-29 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
A lot of communities have a rule saying 'images must be under 400 pixels wide', particularly if they have a narrow layout. If someone only has a much larger image, and can't be bothered resizing it, they can get around the rules by inserting 'width=400 height=400' into the img src tag. That way it fits into the layout, and will go unnoticed by anyone with a broadband connection and mid to high-spec PC.

Of course, everyone who can't afford a decent connection or PC is screwed over, but as the majority of people modding communities either don't notice, don't understand, or don't care...

[identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com 2008-12-30 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah I see. That would suck.

[identity profile] hellenebright.livejournal.com 2008-12-29 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the piece of (IBM Websphere) crap that we use for content management at work insists that you take it thru something like notepad before you try to paste it into the RTF editor (which I refuse to use half of the time and just code in html, so I can see what bloody code i'm putting in)
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[identity profile] ximeria.livejournal.com 2008-12-30 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh dear god yes. To the whole thing. I sometimes do the spoiler thing, but I put it into a table with the same color background, or I use the LJ cut if I'm on LJ.

As for the image thing. That is just... rude. I started out on the internet with an old fashioned modem, I know it's no fun half the of the sites you go through these days -- and even worse, the pictures are never all that good looking because you can never get a smooth surface when resizing it like that.
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[identity profile] alejandradd.livejournal.com 2008-12-29 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I have an insanely basic style on my LJ, and I have LiveJournal Addons (https://addons.mozilla.org/es-ES/firefox/addon/4536) set to add ?style=mine to every single page on LJ that I visit. It rules, because I don't have to worry about having to read pink on black with all the comments justified to the right.

[identity profile] hellenebright.livejournal.com 2008-12-29 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Same here. But I still remember the gonk who chastised me for suggesting that magenta on black, with some weird font like Mona Lisa in 10 point, wasn't the way to ensure their fic got read.
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[identity profile] ximeria.livejournal.com 2008-12-30 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh huh -- I'm getting to that point as well, although I still think people should be taught how to code more correctly -- especially since the add-ons won't catch people coding and forgetting to close half their tags...

[identity profile] hellenebright.livejournal.com 2008-12-29 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah. As a local authority officer responsible for all our public web presence, I am continually having to explain to bloody designers that no, they can't force the colour and size. And I will know, because I check their code in Firefox, and if I can't make it 16 point with white text on a blue background, it's out the door!!

I can't read white text on a blue background myself, but one of my kids is dyslexic, and converts everything to that setting to read it.
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[identity profile] ximeria.livejournal.com 2008-12-30 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
And it makes it so much easier if people would just code to fit the template, then the ones who need it, can convert it into something that's easier for them to read. With hardcoding sometimes getting it to behave like you want it to can drive you crazy in no time.
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[personal profile] nialla 2008-12-30 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
Hardcoding text is a sure-fire way to be certain I don't read a fic.

It often means I can't resize the text, which is almost a necessity for me these days, and if the font's weird, it's unreadable at any size.

Plus I like being able to use my own easy for me to read style. I use the heck out of LJ Addons to click fic over to my style.

I have a suspicion many of those doing this are of a younger age where pretty and sparkly = bestest evar!!!11!!!
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[identity profile] ximeria.livejournal.com 2008-12-30 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh-huh- Younger, yes, well not necessarily in years, but definitely in maturity *eg*

I tend to use the setting in Opera that allows me to suspend other people's CSS coding on any website -- it's saved me many a headache
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[personal profile] nialla 2008-12-31 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
I also wonder if they're newish to online fandom in general (no matter their age)?

For people just learning about fandom and the wealth of it online, they might assume it's supposed to be obnoxiously loud like a MySpace page.
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[identity profile] ximeria.livejournal.com 2008-12-31 09:29 am (UTC)(link)
*sniggers*
I love new and shiny things, but back when myspace came about? I ran away screaming XD
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[personal profile] nialla 2008-12-31 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)
As usual, XKCD says it all. And a little bit extra.

I know a lot of public libraries block sites like MySpace for various reasons. We don't, but the bloody annoying music many play loud enough where I can hear across the room even though they're wearing earphones is pushing it.