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ximeria ([personal profile] ximeria) wrote2009-02-07 02:31 pm
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*laughs arse off*

Oh god, you've GOT to be kidding me -- and no, I'm not locking this, because this, on top of having 1. been at work on a Saturday and 2. having shite customers, apart from the last one, who was oh so very sweet this piece of feedback just made me howl with laughter. Since the person didn't give out his/her real email addy, I think it's safe to say he/she is a troll. If not? Then they deserve you guys having a laugh at their expenses as well.

from: fake-email-address@hotmail.com

I liked part 1 but I didn't read part 2 - stopped as soon as I realized Jack was in the submissive role. To me a submissive Jack is a bottom Jack and I just can not believe a Jack written in that role. I do not enjoy reading such either so I have stopped reading those stories period.

It is a matter of personal taste and not a reflection on your writing. However, as a reader I would appreciate being warned so that I do not get involved in a story only to be sorely disappointed.


That last line? FTW!

I'm not even sure I remember all that much about that story (invisible ties), it was a fb sent via Area 52, so it's a VERY old story. Ah, archived in 2004. My memory is not that good XD

Seriously, if we are to warn about EVERYTHING, the header of a fic would be bigger than the stories themselves...

eta: We're talking about Jack O'Neill here, not Jack Harkness, who we all know doesn't care about about top or bottoming or really, stupid 21st century labels *g*
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[personal profile] alyse 2009-02-07 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
O.o

Not to mention solely defining a character by what sexual positions they might enjoy, particularly when you try and use those preferences to stick them into unrealistic and subjective roles in relationships.

Because people really are two dimensional paper cut outs.

::head desk::
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[identity profile] ximeria.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yes, and just because Jack O'Neill is air force, of course means he'd never submit to another man. Right. *rolls eyes*

[identity profile] ingridmatthews.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 01:38 pm (UTC)(link)
OHNOES, THEIR POOR EYES! HAVE MERCY, WHY DON'T YOU??
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[identity profile] ximeria.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
*snorts*
Exactly. I think by now we should warn like this: "Please note that after this header with its warnings, is a pice of FIC-TION" *g*
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[identity profile] nicci-mac.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, she has a point! I mean, I would like if you could warn us if you are intending gratuitous use of the work 'ankle' or if you indend to dipict two men having hot monkeysex, oh and I would appreciate a warning if a female makes even a brief appearance and especially if she speaks. More than one sentance. Or at all actually. Oh and please, please, please warn us about thumbs! Thumbs squick me.

Kthanx

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[identity profile] ximeria.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh-huh. Just wait till I post a fic again. The header will scar you for life *eg*
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[identity profile] nicci-mac.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Only if there are thumbs in it!

[identity profile] gokuma.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, bottom!Jack? You don't say! What a... preposterous... thing *laughs*
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[identity profile] ximeria.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh, since we're talking Jack O'Neill, it seems so LOL
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[identity profile] fluterbev.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL that's hilarious! You big meanie, you, not taking account of some random nutcase's delicate sensibilities. This is as good as needing warnings for Blair having his hair cut :-D.
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[identity profile] ximeria.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
*sniggers*

Oh, I know! Warning: Daniel breaks his glasses XD
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Read at your own risk (a.k.a. be responsible for your own actions)

[identity profile] halftime1030.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
People, especially anonymous ones, can be such morons. It's like picking up a book in the library and discovering after reading it that you didn't enjoy that author/story - it's the chance you take when you read anything. Reading is an adventure folks, kinda like chocolate, you never know what you're going to get. ;-)
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BTW...

[identity profile] halftime1030.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
...where can I find Invisible Ties? Sounds like a good fic ;-)
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Re: BTW...

[identity profile] ximeria.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
*grins*
Well, it's Stargate fic, so I don't know if it's to your interest, but it's a sequel to A Night to Remember (http://ximeria.popullus.net/fanfic/sg-night.php) - sequel: Invisible Ties (http://ximeria.popullus.net/fanfic/sg-night.php)

[identity profile] hellenebright.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I can just see it
Title: some story
Pairing: Jack/some dude
Warnings: NC-17 contains m/m sex in which Jack ****up the****, also features Jack ********ing *****(twice) and using ********. The other dude prefers ********* but is eventually persuaded to ******* up the *********also, and realises that he really likes *************. Oh, and also includes thumbs, just in case [Bad username or site: nicci mac @ livejournal.com] is reading.

[identity profile] hellenebright.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Bad, Bad username !!!! [livejournal.com profile] nicci_mac Go wash your brain out with soap!!
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[identity profile] nicci-mac.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 02:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Bwahahahahaha!

I have a bad user name.

YAY!

[identity profile] hellenebright.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
My work here is done :)
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[identity profile] ximeria.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
*giggles madly*

and yes, Nicci IS a bad username XD

[identity profile] catspaw-sgjd.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 02:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeesh! Where have all the grown ups gone?

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[identity profile] nicci-mac.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 02:56 pm (UTC)(link)
*waves*

Here I am

High on cleaning products!

[identity profile] zooz.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
*snicker* oh noooo....bottom Jack...you can't be serious ;-P my eyes ....my eyes...
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[identity profile] ximeria.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
*laughs*

Well, we're talking big bad Jack O'Neill here. Seriously, I used to love writing Jack trusting a partner enough to just let go *g* -- so plenty of my age old SG1 fic leans in that direction XD

[identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 03:21 pm (UTC)(link)
'It is a matter of personal taste and not a reflection on your writing. However, as a reader I would appreciate being warned so that I do not get involved in a story only to be sorely disappointed.
'

Maybe this person would like warnings for published fiction too. *Rolls Eyes*

Hamlet: Everyone dies

[identity profile] love-jackianto.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I would hate to see a warning for Torchwood the show.

Warning: Swearing, violence, boy kissing, boy/girl kissing, girl/girl kissing, repeated character death, regular character death, m/m sex, f/f sex, m/f sex... just to name a few.

People seem to think they're entitled to warnings for EVERYTHING when it comes to fanfic.
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[identity profile] boji.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
The really funny thing is that I skimmed my f-list, got to this entry and cracked up because I thought someone was writing to say that Cpt.Jack Harkness doesn't bottom. And the idea that he would have any boundaries that don't involve permanent death, infatilising or the sexualisation of er... toilet habits just...

Well, I laughed my head off. Then I realised they meant Jack O'Neil and all I could think was: yet another reader that feels more comfortable feminising Daniel. Mind you, I also thought that it's a shame fic does tend to veer towards penetrative sex in writing, rather than frotting or oral. If there was less emphasis on penetrative sex maybe we could finally get away from narrow little boundaries such as who tops or who bottoms. That said, I do see Daniel as a bottom. Not because he's more vulnerable - because he is the ultimate survivor in many ways - but because he's pushy *g*
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[identity profile] ximeria.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh, I realized after posting it that people might think at first that I was referring to Jack Harkness, the biggest slut player in the universe *g*

I never really label anyone bottom or top. At least, I don't base it on who pentrates vs is penetrated. I love writing everything from blowjobs to full scale penetration, including frottage. I tend to view Daniel a competent instigater or a very pushy participent LOL

[identity profile] bertybertle.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
EXCELLENT!

I have to admit that when I first started writing and archiving my stories, I was appalled by the Bottom!Jack warning that you were supposed to post at Area 52 if your story contained such a scandalous thing. In fact I was so appalled that I never used to use it - it made me so fucking mad! I mean WHAT THE FUCK? Why was there no Bottom!Daniel warning, only one for Jack? I tell you, I used to spit blood over that. Talk about a widely held fandom belief that becomes fucking LAW! Grrrrrrrrrrrr! Daniel was bottom and that was it, apparently. Utter bollocks!

Shame he/she didn't have the balls to back up their whining with a real address.

Also a shame that Area 52 haven't abolished such a ridiculous and insulting warning.

/rant.

*goes and has one of the nice yellow pills and a lie down*




[identity profile] shiawmeimei.livejournal.com 2009-02-08 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Now see I like the Bottom!Jack label at Area 52 but I don't see it as a warning. To me, it's a convenient search tool looking for my favorite type of story!

[identity profile] bertybertle.livejournal.com 2009-02-08 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, you and your positive spin, Fruitcake! *g*

But I'm pretty sure that it was to keep any hint of Jack being the kind of guy that caught instead of pitched from the eyes of tenderhearted readers, as Xim's feedback suggests. *grits teeth*

*rattles pill bottle*

[identity profile] mornincamper.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
"Can't believe a Jack written in that role" ...???
Were they watching the same show I was? Cause no matter how much macho, air-force bluster our Jack musters up, Caving in to Daniel (with a roll of the eyes no less) seems like it's always been his natural state.
This is like the bagged wood I get for fires that clearly states..."remove wood from (plastic) bag before lighting fire" (lol)... this *is* slash - and fanfic - seriously, how many warnings does it really need? The only time I wanna be warned is if it's reaally gross, non-con (cause that's just a whole different vibe) or character death. (okay, maybe interpspecies sex should come with a warning *g* "no unas were compromised during the writing of this fic")
Can we campaign for a "SimperingWuss!Daniel" warning - cause those really leave me sorely disappointed (Jack, too I imagine)

[identity profile] kel-reiley.livejournal.com 2009-02-08 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
i don't know who Jack O'Neill is, but that message is really really funny
i kind of want to try that email address though
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[identity profile] kitzen-kat.livejournal.com 2009-02-08 09:24 am (UTC)(link)
What a load of WTF. I mean, of all the daft things that we warn about in fics - and we have to warn about bottoms? That's hysterical!

[identity profile] wadjet-theperv.livejournal.com 2009-02-09 11:39 am (UTC)(link)
*SPLORT*!!!!

Jack doesn't bottom. Oh no. Of course he doesn't. Never.

ROTFLM(o)(o)A(_|_)O!!!!!!!!!!!!!